The question “but what about rapists?” is a valid question when we’re talking about transformative justice and prison abolition, and every prison abolitionist has written their own answer to that question at some point. (go check out the sources below)
But there is something fucked up about the question
“but what about rapists?”
being asked by people who want prisons to continue to exist. And that fucked up thing is the assumption that rapists are not raping people while in prison. Even though prison is full of, ya know, PEOPLE.
Prisons are full of people who happen to have no where to go and who happen to be in an extremely fucked up institution that routinely turns a blind eye to sexual violence. So, ya know, the only way you could think that prisons are currently preventing rape is if you didn’t consider prisoners people.
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(Also, if you hear the word ‘prisoner’ and your first thought is about rapists and murderers: congratulations! the state propaganda is working) (And no, I don’t think it would be any more helpful to put all
the rapists in one prison to sit around comparing notes. Go read about transformative justice instead.)
Also; 1) as a rule rapists don’t go to prison 2) the entire premise of prisons is that you will be raped if they send you there – that’s the deterrent – the state is literally threatening to rape people who don’t conform – how in the fuck is that justice?? 3) I don’t have the figures handy (try google) but I’ve read that most prison rapes are actually committed by prison staff (I’ve personally been sexually assaulted by police, they raped my friend and then used that as a threat/intimidation tactic against me – this all over an arbitrary arrest for putting marker pen on an abandoned building btw – completely unlawful, but we were children and they scared a confession out of us – after sexually abusing us, again we were children at the time!!) So in answer to the “what abut rapists?!” response – we would not give them authority and impunity to do that any more – for start!!
And that’s how public shootings and school shootings and shit like that happen. I’m not saying that this dude is not creepy as fuck, but this is not the way to handle this! He didn’t say anything mean (on purpose), and when you shut him down like that how the fuck do you think he’s going to react? He must know he’s somewhat creepy, but when a complete stranger that he adores tells him so vividly how creepy he is, that must wreck his world. I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if he bought a gun (legally, but that’s a different issue) and went in to the store he knows you fucking work at. Just be nice to people fuck.
Alright, you know what? I don’t want to reblog this post. I want this post to die. And I have never once reblogged to reply to someone else’s comment on this post. But this one? This one I’m fucking gonna, because how. dare. you.
Are you seriously one of those slimy, inhuman grease traps of a human being who blame VICTIMS OF SHOOTINGS FOR THE FUCKING SHOOTINGS
Don’t you EVER come at me and try to tell me that I need to be responsible, personally responsible, for the mental satisfaction of the kind of monsters who would do something like that. Don’t you ever tell me I have to let myself be uncomfortable around people who LITERALLY STALK ME and put on a big smile and let them down gently because in your twisted little brain it is MY JOB TO KEEP THEM FROM KILLING PEOPLE
H O W F U C K I N G D A R E Y O U
YOU are the problem. YOU are the kind of person who justifies that kind of senseless violence by saying WELL IF SHE HAD JUST GIVEN HIM A CHANCE
IF SHE HAD JUST FUCKED HIM
IF HE HAD JUST ‘GOTTEN SOME’
HE WOULDN’T HAVE RAPED HER/SHOT THEM/DONE IT
Are you fucking proud of that? Are you proud that that’s the tiny drop you choose to drop into society’s bucket?
I don’t care if it ‘wrecked his world’ when he was called out on his socially unacceptable, disgusting behavior. I don’t caaaaaaaare
His actions are HIS actions. His actions are HIS fault
the next time I see a tragedy like the elliot rodger shooting on the news, I’m gonna think of all the vile comments from people online that say it all could have been avoided if the people he threatened and menaced would just relinquish their bodies and their comfort and their personal space for him, and I’m gonna s e e y o u r f a c e and I hope you fucking know it.
Don’t you ever talk to me. I am sick to my stomach over your fucking bullshit.
If this guy was just trying to be nice and didn’t realize he was coming off as creepy, then her response is exactly what he needs. By being brutally honest, he can learn from his mistake and change how he interacts with women. She listed exactly what he was doing wrong, and gave him excellent advice for how to avoid turning women off (don’t form elaborate fantasies of women you know nothing about, don’t track down strangers on facebook after only having a short conversation with them, don’t continue to message someone after not getting a response, don’t label yourself as a “Nice Guy”). She could have just said “Fuck off, creep. You’re ugly and weird.”, but she took the time to give him an explanation of what he can do in his future interactions with women.
If she instead tried to be polite and just said “Sorry, I have a boyfriend”, he may continue to approach women the same way because he’ll think that he did everything right and that the next woman will be interested if she’s single.
And if rejection is all it takes to turn someone into a mass shooter, then their sense of entitlement is already there. Rejection is part of life. Even the men who have women all over them get rejected sometimes. The difference is that they move on when rejected.
@everybody-calmdown you realize you’re justifying mass murders right? Lol men are fucking wild.
Let me tell you all a story. I went on one (1) date with a guy. After that I told him that I just wanted to be friends and to respect that. He later pressured me into having sex and I basically stopped talking to him. I happened to be moving out of the dorms at this time, and my RA told me not to tell him my new address. I didn’t, I was really creeped out and afraid. Then, he sent me an email that was 5 pages long, telling me his life story (I am not his emotional dumpster, thanks) and begging for me to talk to him and that I was the best he ever had and that sometimes he’d “go crazy”. I didn’t want to find out what “go crazy” meant so I told him to leave me the hell alone and blocked him. Moral of the story: she did everything she was supposed to do, and blaming her for it is super fucked up. They are men in control of themselves, I’m not their mom and their actions are entirely on them.
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